Suppress those silly Xeno's but only for when playing tall. After that, it’s up to you to make the choice! How Do Tributaries Work? Vassal or Tributary. As long as there is at least one empire present that is not Fanatic Pacifist, war is an almost inevitable aspect in any game and can be anything from a small border skirmish to a massive interstellar war of conquest. Stellaris Wiki Active Wikis. Going by the Blorg stream, vassals work pretty much the same as they do in EU4. Authors description: Exalted Domination – Vassals And Tributaries. Stellaris. What are the pros and cons of doing this compared to just taking my chances of dying to the xenophobes?Currently if you are playing on insane AI difficulty, and then make a vassal, that vassal will NOT benefit from the +100% bonuses. There's no option for using favors to sway your way, no ultimatums (e. This mod will continue to be updated with new features as they are designed. Having a protectorate gives . Steps to reproduce the issue. but in the war conditions menu I cannot choose to vassalize him. I prefer conquest. This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 04:39. In a perfect run you would just grow large nough to start the vassalisation chain and then even shrink yourself a bit if over 100. Copyright © 2016 Paradox Interactive AB. Neither. In this video I am going to break down the basic ways that we can go to w. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. 9 ‘Caelum’ is Out, What’s. 4 we had those two vastly different types of subjugation: Vassals are diplomatically tied to their overlord, they pay a small tribute and get some benefits. I like that, on a conceptual level. Funny is the contracts allowed it you could give a empire 100 percent of everything but if you ask just for 15 percent of anything they say how dare you make such a. FC - A protectorate becomes a vassal at 60%, a vassal becomes a protectorate (automatically) at 50%. Click that, send, wait till they deny your offer and then you get the belli. The bonus 30% to science is… well it’s nothing. Stellaris also has a vassal system that empire leaders can make use of. Each vassal type has certain limits on what you can demmand of them. Currently bigger empires (ie conquest) is just stronger due to the fact that you can just increase your empire sprawl endlessly (ie no science loss from bigger empires) and the ai has weird ship designs and uses buildings suboptimally. It may be easier to gain technology advantage with protectorate. It leads to some funny (and frustating) situations like when you claim all the enemies planets so they will disapear, instead of becoming a vassall. From beginning on I had three neighboring, strong empires. When/if they refuse you should get a "subjugation" causus belli for at least a short while. 4. There should be a “Create Vassal” button in the bottom left corner. Age of Wonders 4 Empire of Sin Cities: Skylines 2 Crusader Kings 3 Europa Universalis 4 Hearts of Iron 4 Hunter: The Reckoning Imperator: Rome Prison Architect Stellaris Surviving Mars Surviving the Aftermath Vampire: The Masquerade Victoria 3. If they are. 4 Cepheus update. - Changing your subject's name: To do this, I made it so your subject name will change to the name of your Capital system. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?This article is for the PC version of Stellaris only. So whenever declaring war against tributaries, make sure you win as soon as possible, while their ticking warscore is still manageable. x and is still not updated with 3. Ever since the Stellaris Overlord expansion, and even before, I hoped for a more modular subject system in EUIV. Thread starter Thaduck; Start date May 9, 2022; Jump to latest Follow. That's every major, and most minor, DLC. Go into the diplomacy tab with the empire you wanna vassalize. 8] Subscribe. If you can put the AI into a suitably bad position, they will surrender and thereby cede systems you have not actually conquered. . A prolonged fight against both would have been a problem, but liberating the one guy had a. but whatever. Claims stuff on a different empire, make them a tributary. Go into the diplomacy tab with the empire you wanna vassalize. If you have 250K strong total, let them possess a 50K fleet and then they'll help you in wars. That’s your window to declare. No no it was the other way round. Does anyone have any input on how to change your subject from a tributary/tribal vassal to a feudatory subject in order to integrate them? The wiki does not give any answer. How do we conquer other empires in Stellaris? Welcome to war goals and casus belli. You can't integrate them, you can't prohibit their expansion, you can't limit their diplomatic options, you can't build any holdings and you can't give them subsidiaries as their overlord. I've beaten two of them recently, and forced one to be my tributary and the other one my vassal. Don't build them up and they'll only be 5K strong so they can't help you. sounds like how a vassal empire would act if they weren't loyal Loyalty isn't a factor, or at least, the game-indicated Loyalty stat isn't a factor. Pacifists can conquer their claims in defensive wars, so if you don't want tributaries to be of your species this can be a way to arrange that. the only option is them to be a tributary, despite already being a vassal. Now your tributary gives you energy and minerals, add part of their naval cap to the federation fleet, and they're pulled into any wars you're involved in, because they count as federation members. 'War score' at the beginning of war says it's -200. The vassal doesn’t add to your sprawl, keeps their remaining civilian and military ships, and if you play it right continues to develop and donate even more to your empire. Reply . Forced submission: You automatically get a subjugation Casus Beli on any empire that is overall "inferior" to you in fleet, tech, and economic power. ”. Well it depends. Possibly replaced by their overlord, or the galactic empire will just be dissolved (perhaps even have some kind of event where people panic because the protector-turned-ruler just got punted, that'd be pretty frightening)Any one of the three get protection. Subscribe to downloadVassals and Tributaries - Exalted Domination [2. It doesnt count towards occupation, thus forcing me to totally wipe them out of the face of the galaxy to end the war and making it impossible to actually create a vassal or. This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 11:13. Alternatively, keep crime at 0 and once every 10-12 years or so, a criminal branch office will be closed via an event. As vassal you get the "help", and part of the fleet power of an inefficient non-difficulty boosted AI. Mr-H-Saether • 5 mo. Thread starter DrFranknfurter;. Stellaris - Vassal Rehberi. Is there a way to force a neighbour to become your vassal with the new mechanics. Stellaris. There’s no option to scroll. They do lose the difficuilty bonus, yes. You can demmand far more resources from a tributary vs a normal vassal. In a perfect run you would just grow large nough to start the vassalisation chain and then even shrink yourself a bit if over 100. It’s your overlords job to protect you so you don’t really lose out, protecting 1 vassal isn’t a huge problem for a overlord. Vassal play is primarily aimed at Tall, and while it "needed" it, it doesn't make it any less limited in scope. Interesting…so i didnt make them a tributary, i declared a vassal war. bane_howlingmoon Mar 18, 2018 @ 5:42am. Is something wrong with getting Ai to become vassal/tributary/other ? Question I've just had a game where I could just demand other empires to become my vassal and it felt really really Easy. Now your tributary gives you energy and minerals, add part of their naval cap to the federation fleet, and they're pulled into any wars you're involved in, because they count as federation members. Gift them minerals, energy and if required, food. Base: -50 Empire Population: -23 Relative Power: +22 Loyal Attitude: +10 Is there anything I can do to change these? My Tributary has 5 worlds to my 10, I completely trashed his fleet so he has much more fleet to build than I do. But honestly there's very little reason to continue this game. -must first ask in diplomacy screen, then you have 1 year to declare war. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A straga27 Necrophage •. Additionally the occupier could get thicker stripes (like pre-2. Yeah the problem is some of the special vassal types have all of that locked in so you can't adjust much. Release vassals. Stellaris - [v3. Once that has happened you should then be able to choose a specialisation. Vassals stay basically the same as they are now. Otherwise it's a max of 45%. An Overlord should be allowed to decide whether or not their subjects get to colonize and more or less carry on as they did before or if they're just subjects that are. So the differences are that Hegemons don't give any contribution to your empire like a Vassal or Tributary does, so in that sense they're a little weaker. The fastest way to take all their territory is to baseline them the integrate them. Originally tributaries weren't protected by their Overlord wich made it a pretty useless thing, since you waged. You can declare a special war to get rid of the criminal offices though, so if you're confident that you can scrape through that with at least. If your combined military is greater than the overlord, they should start a war for independence, and pull you into it. Paradox Interactive Stellaris - Federations. with the new 3. See screenshots for new tradition effects. One more thing, any diplo action that you use favours on need atleast +1 so they get accepted, usually you can get a bit more by matching policies or improving relations. A weak tributary with 3-4 planets can usually give you a resource output of about one of your planets with no upkeep or tech penalties, being purely positive income. the vassal should have higher special output from politicians and such maybe 10% boost and the overlord should. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Except maybe espionage that causes a political incident. Finding it hard to find a post or article that isn't 6 years old on the topic so i'm making my own post. Then you can integrate them 10 years later (which deletes their branch offices). There are a multitude of reasons that you would want to do this, and it can be beneficial to both parties. After that, you propably want to have Vassals for the Fleet Cap, Reserach Exchange and Unity. I've been watching the Overlord multiplayer stream (mostly Montu) and I was wondering what exactly the difference is between a tributary vs a standard vassal in the upcoming patch. I don't think I had more than 3 corvettes until 15 years in (except when I had to beat the. So i was trying to finish of my current game, to get the slave acheivement, was deciding which of my vassal to integrate when bam the metal head i had vassalized in a war decided they didnt like being my vassal, and they brought all my other. You can't force vassalise your own tributary (since you can't declare war on them), but you can ask them to become your vassal diplomatically. Peter34cph • 3 yr. ; About Stellaris Wiki; Mobile view While a Protectorate, their Overlord gets a slight bonus to Influence. It is possible for the overlord to transform tributary status into a protectorate or vassal, but only if the overlord is big and influential enough. When an AI becomes your vassal it loses all the bonuses AI's normally get based on difficulty. Cheaper in war score and give monies to you. How do we conquer other empires in Stellaris? Welcome to war goals and casus belli. 3 its viable to fragment yourself via releasing sector as vassal. Fluffy-Tanuki • 21 days ago. Short of that, the lowest influence cost way to annex an entire empire is: Call them up in diplomacy and ask them to become your vassal/protectorate/etc. On the lowest difficulties it might work, but if you've increased the difficulty even a single step then it won't. Short of that, the lowest influence cost way to annex an entire empire is: Call them up in diplomacy and ask them to become your vassal/protectorate/etc. How to make vassals/tributary. 0 unless otherwise noted. The requirements for vassals and tributaries are sick. Tributaries themselves are kinda meh and supposedly pretty bugged in 1. The second problem is the leader limit. And you can't give them any by trade, it's greyed out because of the vassal tax (kind of dumb honestly). Else liberate as many planets as you can to split up their empire. :WSC: Mod is a compilation of independent mods that overhauls the Stellaris multiplayer experience. You can easily rename your capital system, and so, you can easily rename your subjects. Adding on to this, if you have no intention of conquering another empire but want a vassal, declare war for a vassal and declare a status quo once war exhaustion is high enough and you've conquered some planets. Select the target from the “Empires” tab, select “Communicate,” and then select “Declare War. I was able to see them initially but at some point they disappeared. This mod aims to improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of. 8] Subscribe. You can declare war on their master and set the terms to liberate their vassal. Not sure, they disappeared at some point Upload Attachment File(s) attachedThis mod adds two new policy trees called "Taxation of Subjects" and "Subsidization of Subjects", that gives you the possibility to tax or subside your Vassals or Protectorates (or both). 8boy09. BanzaiKen • 1 yr. There should be a tab that says something like:"Demand tribute" or "Demand subjugation". Stellaris - [v3. Secondly you need to wait for the 5 year truce timer to expire before any option will pop up. Description. ago by DaReaperZ Why would you ever create vassals instead of tributaries? And why would. Came out of a Casus Belli in a war with some lizard like creatures, i turned them into a vassal and then listened to their unnatural howling (sweet music to my ears! xD) and then i released them a few months later as the whole liberty of being a member of the united human colonies is completely at odds with forcing another race into servitude. Vassal specialist types are suddenly not showing in either the propose subjugation or agreement negotiations menu. A secret fealty vassal I just got started as a bulwark after being fully vassalized, but I'd rather have a regular vassal instead. Hegemons can also continue to expand their empires and make claims and declare wars (depending on laws) unlike. ”. I am fairly new to this game, so I first apologise for my lack of knowledge. Meaning if you dont win fast enough, you can actually lose against it due to ticking warscore. There are a few different ways to create vassals in the game. They'll all be loyal to you, and given a decade or two, they'll also have their own mighty fleet that can rival the biggest federation fleets. The only way to instruct a science vessel to explore an unstabilised wormhole is via the right click menu. They still have their own government, they have their own borders, they manage their own economy and population, but they have no control over their foreign policy. For example a default "Vassal" or a Protectorate can not expand at all. So a criminal syndicate is doing its job and has a couple of branches open on my planets. While a Tributary can expand as normal, but does not join your wars. Make them vassals in the late game so you can integrate them or purge them. Three things have to be true in order to receive the CB for Subjugation. But thats one of the problems with stellaris, they took the diplomacy and warscore systems from Europa Universalis and changed them, making them a LOT. There's a reason tributary was only ever like 25% Reply. Purposely selecting Megacorps as a subsidiary can help protect against the worst downside, as they are unable to Integrate, but Tributary or specialist types also block. Having more planets (& pops) raises the cost of techs and now unities - as far as I know tributary/vassals do not. Vassal rights. 8boy09. which seems to be given by either demanding they become my vassal or tributary. My empire is warmonger, it seems unfitting to "negotiate" with the target, is there a way to subjugate them in war? Before you used to be able to "demand vassalization" or "demand tribute" and then go to war if they refused but I don't see those options anymore. Imperial Spiritualist authoritarian, feudal and cult perks. Legacy Wikis. Vassals Expanded and Reworked. Death Diamond Oct 2, 2022 @ 5:44am. More bang for your war bucks, let you scale your alloy production faster. They are probably more useful in one of the next patches due to tributary states and maybe some other changes (which is currently missing compared to EU4). ago. If you want the extra resources from a vassal with none (or very little) of the headache that comes with loyalty management and specialization, and you don't plan on integrating them either, tributaries. I just think that is a bit expensive. It is developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. I've beaten two of them recently, made one a tributary and the other one my vassal. Vassal states were common among the empires of the Near East, dating back to the era of the Egyptian, Hittite and Mitanni conflict, as well as ancient China. as a trading partner or a buffer zone. Involuntary protectorates (those forced on by war, or those forced on uplifted species) will not give you +1 influence. 4. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Stellaris Dev Diary #313 - 3. A vassal has still some use, even if their military support is questionable, e. Stellaris 50473 Bug Reports 30888 Suggestions 19151 Tech Support 2898 Multiplayer 377 User Mods 4631 Stellaris AAR (After Action Reports) Console edition 1216. thinking between vassal or tributary, if vassal it's 4k additional fleet power in wars (my combined is 8k), but unreliable when declaring wars, usually I want to have all fleet concentrated near borders, and probably war will have been finished by the time vassal fleet arrives to destination. i have all the dlc and have tried restarting my game but idk what the. Thanks beta testers, now I can wait for a sale. Depending on your tradition choices, you may want one over the other I suppose. Prospectorium advantage is that they will get bonus on basic, advance and strategic rerources, has chance to find deposit in space and will never be downgrade to protectorate but get nerf on science production. Scholarium should get some better bonuses to make them actually the science vassal to play as, as well as the subject science one to get. I have 1 specialist vassal that changed from tributary (or subsidiary)but the option to do this it's too random to appear (cannot choose vassal types) even when asking to other empires to become vassals(i am stronger enough) Wupps had that backwards. Stellaris Dev Diary #294 - 3. However, having a Hegemony does work better for you for the federation benefits. It’s your overlords job to protect you so you don’t really lose out, protecting 1 vassal isn’t a huge problem for a overlord. Thread starter DrFranknfurter;. The best way to play is to have as close to zero empire size whilst having the biggest science income. The tributary system and vassalage in medieval Europe : r/Stellaris by CalzoneMan46774 Rogue Defense System Vassal Vs. Question about vassal criminal syndicate. This is separate from the loyalty mechanic. Do be aware that you can only integrate vassals/protectorates. • 21 days ago. In essence, a Tributary is a more independent vassal that you cannot really control. What does it mean for me, and are there things I need to consider for these vassal other than “neat, open borders!”. Except for vassal/tributary/impose ideology wargoals which require 100% occupation. Stellaris v3 version available here! This mod aims to improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and useful to an overlord. Method 1 is the round-about way that I found first. . After that, it's mainly the question you mentioned: going taller or wider. Your vassals will now receive an economic. Alpha Centauri Mods for stellaris: SMAC Factions converted to Stellaris ForumThread SMAC Factions in Stellaris - Steam Workshop link SMAC Symbols/ Flags - Steam. Stellaris Dev Diary #303 - Stellaris with a Twist Community Event!As it is now, when you win a vassalization war, you take the vassal and the claims. * But yeah, occupation is mostly fine and doesn't take all that long with a substantial army and the occasional softening up with bombardment. It’s kinda pointless. I don't want to release them into a vassal/tributary. Why would you ever create vassals instead of tributaries? : r/Stellaris • 2 yr. Through this window you will need to make the various demands/other things. Rord64 Mar 18, 2018 @ 6:06am. Conquest is better, but vassals are fun for role playing. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. -100 for vassaling and -100 for something like war at itself. r/Stellaris. All systems captured, one but one planet is occupied. I have noticed on some empires I cannot visualise them, I can only make them a tributary. Previously in Stellaris, subjugation was rarely a more compelling option than simple conquest, and being subjugated often essentially meant a permanent decline of your empire and a “Game Over” screen in your near future. Suppress those silly Xeno's but only for when playing tall. -must be superior in relative power. So Materialist feudal playthroughs can be crazy good. Vassal Contracts are a massive new feature of the Stellaris 3. From my understanding of unmodded ai: Does this action leave me open for. But i only have 1 option. Legacy Wikis. Basically sectors that cost nothing but only give 25% of raw resources. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Stellaris Wiki Active Wikis. To make a tributary a vessel the correct way would be free them from a tributary>go to war with become vassal as a war goal. •. I have a big fleet. Get a couple of special ones for the unique bonuses but I don't really see a reason to have more than. After that kick someones ass with a goal for liberating a "Rival" Tributary(Your ethos) or a vassal/protectorate/standart tributary and a "Federation" Tributary. but in the war conditions menu I cannot choose to vassalize him. And pacifists make the best Triburaries. war, peace, etc. Currently bigger empires (ie conquest) is just stronger due to the fact that you can just increase your empire sprawl endlessly (ie no science loss from bigger empires) and the ai has weird ship designs and uses buildings suboptimally. Nov 21, 2023Here's a good rule of thumb: If they are going to be good with military, vassalize. The overlord can either renege on their guarentee of independence, or the Tributary can declare a war of independence. I have a big fleet advantage and it is gives me only +14. Then again I'm running Glavious AI which doesn't seem to improve the AI that much (granted, there are 2 "equivalent" normal empires in 2400 and one of my federation members just quit the. Vassal ai is completely useless. It is developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. With the rework that means you can specialize your vassals Authors description: Exalted Domination – Vassals And Tributaries. Whereas a tributary simply cannot be attacked by you and pays you protection money. Wait 10 years. • 1 yr. Making one the vassal and the other the overlord. Tributaries do have a benefit to them. They're still technically in the game, but they're pretty atrocious; vassal-based playstyles do not work, and no attempts have been made to fix that. I'm currently in the mid-game of Stellaris and building up a pretty big empire. 5 I was wondering what peoples feelings are about vassals and tributaries and when it's better to use each. In my experiance 2 ai's in a stalemate will remain in a stalemate unless some third faction(you) systematic start hunting there fleet's, stations, and planets. The first method involves going to war with a target empire. They won’t agree. For instance, one of my allies wanted to go to war to make a tributary of another empire. Unlike vassals, tributaries don't really help you in a war, but if it's a weak empire their fleet would be useless anyway and their resources are put in better use upkeeping your. Stellaris. You can only hope that your overlord leaves the federation or something similar. This mod aims to improve the Domination tradition so that it is an appealing option at any stage of the game and also adds several new vassal and tributary types that are more evocative and useful to an overlord. This page was last edited on 7 June 2023, at 04:39. It's sorta like the political version of slaves. I have no idea on that. You can chose between making them a Tributary or a Vassal (subsidiary if you are megacorp). They are all extremely strong perks with them. rules pretty harsh now: -must have domination tradision. This is what will have them give you more science tribute, and since a higher % of. Description. Ive heard somewhere that if your vassals hate you, then they wont help you in anything. However, from my experience so far, every single empire that is nor you bff (meaning loyal vassal/tributary or in a federation) will vote against custodian if the galaxy is nor facing a crisis. From Dev Diary #247. Negotiate a deal with the crime lord on the planet once crime is above 10. The enemies you fight at that point where you would actually think of using AI help would obliterate AI ships so it's best to have them fund you. Improve your relationship a bit then release the vassal as a now friendly empire. Stellaris. Unhappy sectors will want to become tributaries. 37 votes, 46 comments. In terms of game metrics, this will be a monthly 5 influence cost per population and a 50-influence cost per planet. , best you can. Stellaris Dev Diary #313 - 3. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Even in the old subject system, which console currently uses, vassals only give you a portion of their own naval cap and support you with whatever fleets they manage to field which a 1 system vassal will have very little. Whereas a tributary simply. Anyways, you should stop adding more of the same resource once the counter stops going up. Vassals are even worse on higher difficulties, since no matter. If you wanted to, just sit over their planets and bomb them to extinction then colonize. That's only for protectorates, and whilst specialised empires aren't forced back into protectorates they should still be able to be. Thread starter ruffuska; Start date May 23, 2022; Jump to latest Follow Reply. It does not get refunded, because the Vassal needs to use THEIR influence to be able to refuse the offer. #footer_privacy_policy | #footer. All the Special Vassals are fundamentally reducing their ability to produce science, either directly (the Scholarium science tribute) or in their basic resource economy. • 7 mo. While the subordinate party is called a vassal, vassal state or tributary state, the dominant party is called a suzerain. 385K subscribers in the Stellaris community. Tributaries basically become diet vassals; they pay you loot but still fight in your wars. Prospectorium for non-servitor Machines. 1. Yeah that makes sense, thanks a lot. You both get a free 30% research agreement once you complete all the domination traditions, and you both share all your techs. MEbigBoss. You can right-click and explore any wormhole your science ship can reach, regardless of its territory. If you aren't vastly superior to them on the grand scale of your empires by any regard, you cannot subjugate them through war. Then again I'm running Glavious AI which doesn't seem to improve the AI that much (granted, there are 2 "equivalent" normal empires in 2400 and one of my federation members just quit the. Tributaries, unlike vassals, are semi-independent - they pay tribute to their overlord, but are otherwise left alone. 4, but the quick trust growth means you can turn them into a protectorate/vassal pretty quickly. If I can make tributaries -> vassals and then diploannex them at a later date, I'm peachy. Lets find out. Toplamda 2 kere düzenlenmiş. A subject is an empire that has a special diplomatic relationship with another empire, called the overlord. . If you’re a vassal, your overlord empire has free rein in your territory (which isn’t a big deal if you like them); however, you can’t colonize as a vassal, so be happy with how large you are. Empires of all ethics have the option to leave a subject as vanilla vassal or tributary. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?I was playing a regular game of Stellaris (no mods, Ironman) and thought about declaring war on a nearby empire. They are still worse than non-vassalized empires, but better than vassals who dont receive any gifts at all. submit or rebel), you're completely at the whim of what your vassal deems acceptable which is reflected in the acceptance value. See screenshots for new tradition effects. Never rely on them for anything. usually protectorates never become vassals, since they need 50% of your tech and you can usually out-tech them. Stellaris desperately needs a threaten mechanic. Caveat If you're struggling with ethics divergence sometimes it's helpful to. Federated empires might not accept a vassal/tributary request, but them denying it still gives you the wargoal anyways. There are situations where you want the claims, other where you don't and sometimes you only want a bunch of them. makes sense for wars with teh goal of creating a vassal/tributary. What’s the difference between a vassal Stellaris and a tributary Stellaris?-Vassals give you fleet cap and follow you into any war. LightsaberMadeOfBees • 4 yr. war, peace, etc. Declare war and eliminate crime syndicate. Both are similar in that they are secondary to a more powerful nation or state. 1. I am wondering what the cause of that is and if there is anything I can do to. In Stellaris, becoming a vassal of a regular empire means gameover 99% of the time. When subjugating neighboring empires, is there any advantage to one form of subjugation over the other?Firstly you need to be a recognised power so you can puppet and not just make a tributary. Out of curiosity I became him on a multiplayer. Outside of the special vassal bonuses, Tributary (subsidiary if you are megacorp) gives you the most payout, though you’d have to manage their loyalty. Thank is advance. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Try demanding tribute from them, or demand they become your vassal. Well it depends. Subjugation is a common feature in Paradox games. Now I would like to conquer my third enemy. • 7 mo.